Socratic Seminar on Women & virtues

In our socratric seminar today, we mainly talked about virtues and whether or not they are in the eye of the beholder. First we talked about a line of forgiveness. This mainly focused on the death penalty. I do believe there is a line of forgiveness, and I believe that people like Hitler and Suddam Hussein do not deserve to live because of what they have done to people. The next thing we talked about was revenge and justice. This was about whether or not revenge can be considered part of justice. I do think it is, and a good example of this is the U.S. looking for Osama Bin Ladin after what he orchestrated on 9/11. The topic after that was whether or not virtues are in the eye of the beholder. I gave a good example in the seminar supporting that they are. A confessed druggie may think that it is brave or curageous for someone to turn down drugs, but a model citizen might think that it is a given, and routine to turn down drugs. After that or class moved to converse about if wrong doing is a consequence of ignorance. I do not believe it is because if a homeless person steals food, he knows what he has done is wrong, but he is willing to take the risk because he is so hunry. After that we came to the conclusion that there is no dark without light.